CED Digest Vol. 4 No. 28

CED Digest Vol. 4 No. 28 • 7/17/1999
From: StereoBoy
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 11:31:10 EDT
Subject: Re: CED Digest Vol. 4 No. 27
To: ceds@teleport.com

In a message dated 7/11/99 8:57:20 AM Mountain Daylight Time, 
ceds@teleport.com writes:

<< RCA's
 manual SGT200 and SGT250 players are interesting in that they
 simultaneously play both soundtracks with the switch in the STEREO
 position, which sounds pretty weird. >>

The CED system utilized a matrix to encode the 2-channel audio... the orignal 
discs had a single, mono channel, and when RCA, belatedly, added stereo, they 
had to do it in a manner that would retain compatibility with existing 
players. If Left and Right were recorded directly on the disc (as LaserDisc 
does), with no manipulation, mono players would play only the Left channel. 
So, the 2-channel signal was created by summing L+R together and recording it 
on the original mono carrier; then doing a subtraction of left and right 
(L-R) and recording it on the 'new' second carrier. A mono player 'sees' only 
the L+R mono composite track and full compatibility is assured, while a 
stereo player add's and subtracts L+R and L-R to obtain the original two 
channels. This type of matrixing is used in FM stereo radio too. Due to the 
way CX Noise Reduction operates, dual-language CED discs couldn't utilize it, 
and thus, were as noisy as standard mono discs.

One thing I do not understand is why RCA placed the L/R switch on the back of 
the players (SGT200/250). If the player is placed in a cabinet, the switch is 
almost impossible to use. Perhaps RCA didn't expect much use of it by 
consumers? 

Ty C.

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From: DennySpangler
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 16:02:01 -0400 (EDT)
To: ceds@teleport.com (Tom Howe)
Subject: CED question of the day

Hello all! 

I'm new to this 'technology', so bear with me.  I currently have 12
discs- 3 of them skip unbearably.  I don't have the patience to sit thru
it and do the 'page' thing.  Any idea of the ratio of good disc to bad
disc?  I \purchased them from eBay- but decided I'll only buy discs that
have been tested and work, or from other collectors. (On that note- does
anyone have any Cher titles you want to sell?)  Thanx!

Den

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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 19:15:24 -0700
From: Andy Sanchez
To: ceds@teleport.com
Subject: SUBSCRIBE

thanks

Just picked up the SJT-100 model. Been into Betamax format ,
rather surprised to see how useable a 15 year old CED-disc
player can be after all this time. My 100 of course had a bad
loading belt. More unusual, was the platter height screw (located
on the bottom of the deck) seemed to be too low, as when I first
ran the deck the platter was making all sorts of grinding sounds,
and the platter would not even spin up to full speed.

Of course setting the height screw for the platter solved that problem,
and I lucked out to find it had a good stylus. The local thrift here has
about
30 CED discs, I will be pouring over them!

Anyways, good to see another "obsolete" format alive on the web.
Andy

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From: Tencton
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 00:35:07 EDT
Subject: Re: CED Digest Vol. 4 No. 27
To: ceds@teleport.com

Re:  Jane Fonda Workouts on disc
I am wondering about a certain videodisc.  I know that Jane Fonda's exercise 
CEDs were dual soundtrack so you could hear her with the music or just music. 
 I read that the last workout she released on disc, 'Jane Fonda's New 
Workout' was also stereo and supposedly dual soundtrack.  I ordered it and it 
is in a white caddy and mono-sound only.  No stereo or dual playback.  Does 
anyone know if its just a version mixup or is there a dual soundtrack version 
available?  Also, the original Workout she released came out twice with 
different RCA logos on the caddy.  Does anyone know if there may be editing 
to one of the programs like it was on video?  Does anyone have both to 
compare?
Thanks.

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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 02:07 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Undocumented Page Mode
From: Brian Clarke
To: "ceds@teleport.com" <ceds@teleport.com>

My Zenith VP2000 CED player is now up and running. I haven't had any luck
yet tracking down owner's or service manuals for the VP2000 or the
identical RCA SFT100, but while I'm searching could someone please tell me
what "Undocumented Page Mode" means?

Thanks, Brian Clarke.
<brian-damage@worldnet.att.net>

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From: TerryTC1
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 00:38:45 EDT
Subject: Michaelangelo Disc insert booklet
To: ceds@teleport.com

I recently acquired the semi-interactive CED of Michaelangelo.  It  came with 
the box but it did not come with the insert booklet.  I  am looking to 
purchase a booklet if anyone has an extra, or I would be just as happy to 
receive a photo copy or jpeg scan of the booklet that I could place in the 
box.  

Thanks,

Terry

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From: "Bud Klass"
To: <ceds@teleport.com>
Subject: FOR SALE CED's
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 13:43:42 -0400

I would like to sell them all as one lot. I live in Florida and if you want
they can be picked up. I also can ship, but remember shipping will be higher
then normal they are heavy. I would like $150 for the lot but i am opened to
offers. If no one buys them all i will sell them seperately. All are in GREAT
shape. I have had about 1000 of these CED's before and never have i seen such
a clean lot of them. If there is a certain title you want to see a photo of
email me and i will send you a picture.

Thanks,

Bud

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STAR WARS
WEST SIDE STORY 2 PARTS
THE JAZZ SINGER
HEAVENS GATE 2 PARTS
BLUE THUNDER
RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK
ROCKY III
WARGAMES
TRON
FIRST BLOOD
KELLY'S HEROES 2 PARTS
A STAR IS BORN 2 PARTS
STAYING ALIVE
SUPERMAN II, 2 PARTS
THE APPLE DUMPLING GANG
ENTER THE NINJA
AMERICAN GIGOLO
SMOKEY AND THE BANDIT
PORKY'S
PATERNITY
HIGH ROAD TO CHINA
A FIST FULL OF DOLLARS
POLICE ACADEMY
OH, GOD!
ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO'S NEST 2 PARTS
9 TO 5
DELIVERANCE
THE MOUNTAIN MEN
THE PINK PANTHER STRIKES AGAIN
BILLY JACK
TOOTSIE
ROCKY II
JAWS
THE GOOD, THE BAD, AND THE UGLY, 2 PARTS
EVERY WHICH WAY BUT LOOSE
DEATH RACE 2000
BREAKFAST AT TIFFANY'S
THE LONGEST YARD
URBAN COWBOY, 2 PARTS
WHATS UP DOC?
ABSENCE OF MALICE
SATURDAY NIGHT FEVER
ORDINARY PEOPLE , 2 PARTS
PORKY'S II- THE NEXT DAY
CANNONBALL RUN II
SIX PACK
AIRPLANE
THE FOUR SEASONS
SERPICO, 2 PARTS
SINGIN' IN THE RAIN
FOR A FEW DOLLARS MORE, 2 PARTS
MASH
COMING HOME, 2 PARTS
NETWORK
SHARKY'S MACHINE
SMOKEY AND THE BANDIT II
BULLITT
TANK
MR MOM
ON GOLDEN POND
GOOD GUY'S WEAR BLACK
THE VERDICT, 2 PARTS
RED RIVER, 2 PARTS
ELVIS ALOHA FROM HAWAII
CLASS
PRIVATE EYES
THE CHINA SYNDROME
WHITE LIGHTNING
GOLDFINGER
BREATHLESS
THE GREEN BERETS, 2 PARTS
THE ENFORCER
THE MAN WHO LOVED WOMEN
AN AMERICAN IN PARIS
FORT APACHE, THE BRONX
STARTING OVER
THE BEST LITTLE WHOREHOUSE IN TEXAS
SOUTH PACIFIC, 2 PARTS
LASSITER
THE FRENCH LIEUTENANT'S WOMEN
THE BIG RED ONE
BRIGADOON
DEATH WISH
HOOPER
LOVE STORY
THE STONE KILLER
ARTHUR
STRIPES
DEATH WISH II
MAGNUM FORCE
NATIONAL LAMPOONS ANIMAL HOUSE
THE CANNONBALL RUN
AIRPLANE II THE SEQUEL
ANY WHICH WAY YOU CAN
CADDYSHACK
LONE WOLF MCQUADE
COAL MINERS DAUGHTER
GREASE
REVENGE OF THE NINJA
BRIANS SONG
ROCKY
SUDDEN IMPACT
THUNDERBOLT AND LIGHTFOOT
SILVER STREAK
NORMA RAE
SILENT RAGE
DIRTY HARRY
STROKER ACE
I THE JURY
AN OFFICER AND A GENTLEMAN 2 PARTS
AIRPORT, 2 PARTS
SEEMS LIKE OLD TIMES
NATIONAL LAMPOONS VACATION

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Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 12:20:32 -0700
From: tom@cedmagic.com
To: digest@cedmagic.com
Subject: RE: Unable to Insert Caddy into F/G Chassis Player

>When the unit is hooked up, plugged in & set to the "load" position and I
>try to insert a disk, I encounter a stop about 1/3 of the way in. The disk
>will go no further

This sounds like a broken bearing on the left guide rail. The bearing end
of the guide rail is hidden under the system control circuit board and is
difficult to see unless that board is unscrewed and rotated to the side.
The plastic bearing is rather thin-walled and can break if a caddy is
forcefully shoved into the player. When this end breaks the guide rail pokes
up into the caddy insertion path and only allows the caddy to go about 1/3
of the way in.

If the break was clean you may be able to retrieve the broken piece from the
bottom of the player and "superglue" it back on. Another option is to take a
thick nylon washer with a 1/8" hole and glue it onto the broken end of the
guide rail after filing the rail down to achieve a smooth fit.

-Tom
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